Seth Klarman model inputs
Score each input from 0 to 100, multiply by the weight, then read the total with the score band table.
| Input | Weight | What to check |
|---|---|---|
| Downside map | 25% | Liquidation value, cash burn, dilution, refinancing, covenant risk. |
| Discount source | 20% | Forced selling, fear, complexity, leverage, or real business impairment. |
| Liquidity and horizon | 15% | Can the investor wait without being forced out. |
| Catalyst quality | 15% | Asset sale, restructuring, estimate reset, filing signal, or management action. |
| Position-size safety | 15% | Sizing from downside loss, not upside target. |
| Opportunity cost | 10% | Whether cash or a cleaner setup is better. |
Seth Klarman score bands
Use the score as a research gate, not as a price target or recommendation.
| Score | Output | Meaning |
|---|---|---|
| 80-100 | Mispriced uncertainty | Discount is real and downside is survivable. |
| 65-79 | Small position only | Potential opportunity, but one risk deserves smaller sizing. |
| 45-64 | Cheap for a reason | Discount may reflect real impairment. |
| 0-44 | Avoid | Complexity or leverage can permanently impair capital. |
Seth Klarman action matrix
The action matrix converts model conditions into the next research step.
| Setup | Action | Why |
|---|---|---|
| Large discount + survivable downside | Research | Write the bear case before estimating upside. |
| Large discount + financing risk | Avoid or tiny size | Refinancing can destroy the thesis. |
| Complex situation + no catalyst | Wait | Dead money is a real cost. |
| Unclear downside | Reject | If the loss cannot be mapped, the model cannot pass. |
Investor Checklist
- Downside map (25%): Liquidation value, cash burn, dilution, refinancing, covenant risk.
- Discount source (20%): Forced selling, fear, complexity, leverage, or real business impairment.
- Liquidity and horizon (15%): Can the investor wait without being forced out.
- Catalyst quality (15%): Asset sale, restructuring, estimate reset, filing signal, or management action.
- Position-size safety (15%): Sizing from downside loss, not upside target.
- Opportunity cost (10%): Whether cash or a cleaner setup is better.
The Model
Klarman Downside-First Score: Score = 25% downside map + 20% discount source + 15% liquidity/time horizon + 15% catalyst quality + 15% position-size safety + 10% opportunity cost.
- Downside map (25%) — Liquidation value, cash burn, dilution, refinancing, covenant risk.
- Discount source (20%) — Forced selling, fear, complexity, leverage, or real business impairment.
- Liquidity and horizon (15%) — Can the investor wait without being forced out.
- Catalyst quality (15%) — Asset sale, restructuring, estimate reset, filing signal, or management action.
- Position-size safety (15%) — Sizing from downside loss, not upside target.
- Opportunity cost (10%) — Whether cash or a cleaner setup is better.
Scorecard and action tables
Use the tables above as the working model. Fill each input with current evidence, assign a rough score, then let the action matrix decide whether the page deserves deeper research.
- Large discount + survivable downside: Research — Write the bear case before estimating upside.
- Large discount + financing risk: Avoid or tiny size — Refinancing can destroy the thesis.
- Complex situation + no catalyst: Wait — Dead money is a real cost.
- Unclear downside: Reject — If the loss cannot be mapped, the model cannot pass.
How To Read The Score
The score is not a price target. It is a research gate. High scores mean the setup deserves deeper work; low scores mean the model is warning that the thesis is incomplete.
- 80-100: Mispriced uncertainty — Discount is real and downside is survivable.
- 65-79: Small position only — Potential opportunity, but one risk deserves smaller sizing.
- 45-64: Cheap for a reason — Discount may reflect real impairment.
- 0-44: Avoid — Complexity or leverage can permanently impair capital.
Hard Invalidation Rules
These rules override the score. If one hard invalidation appears, the model should be re-scored before any position decision.
- The company needs dilutive financing before the thesis can play out.
- The discount source is permanent impairment, not temporary fear.
- Liquidity dries up or the investor cannot hold through volatility.
- The catalyst is delayed while cash burn continues.
Example Model Run
A stock down 55% after a guidance cut may still score 47 if debt matures soon and free cash flow is negative. The model says cheap for a reason.
SnowballHare Data Workflow
Run the model with SnowballHare pages as evidence sources. The goal is to make each score traceable, not subjective.
- Use 13F investor pages to review how value managers handle concentrated or unpopular positions.
- Use investor questions to check risk-reward, position sizing, stop-loss, and drawdown topics.
- Use earnings analysis to separate temporary disappointment from permanent impairment.
- Use forecasts to make bear-case assumptions explicit before considering upside.
Model Traps
The model becomes dangerous when one input is treated as the whole answer.
- Calling a stock cheap without identifying why the market is selling it.
- Ignoring liquidity because the theoretical upside looks large.
- Sizing a position from upside instead of downside.
- Treating complexity as automatically attractive.
When To Use Another Model
It can be too conservative for clean secular growth or momentum-driven leadership. It may also pass on good businesses because the margin of safety is not obvious enough.
Common Questions
How is Klarman different from generic value investing?
The emphasis is more risk-first: downside, liquidity, complexity, patience, and position sizing matter before upside.
Does a large discount always mean opportunity?
No. Some discounts reflect permanent impairment, leverage risk, or a business that is deteriorating faster than price.
What should I check first?
Identify why the discount exists and whether the downside can be survived without dilution or forced selling.
How should SnowballHare users apply it?
Use 13F context, risk questions, earnings quality, and scenario forecasts to define downside before estimating upside.
What is the main investment question for Seth Klarman?
The core question is whether current data supports a stronger earnings, valuation, or risk signal than the market already expects.
What should investors check first?
Start with the latest reported numbers, guidance, margin direction, valuation expectations, and the risks that would weaken the thesis.